FBI iski vertaisverkkopiraattien kimppuun

Eikös taiteita tehdä omaksi iloksi? Rahasta ei voi tehdä taidetta koska silloin tehdään jotain jolla on jo ostaja/maksaja -> taide muuttuu työksi.

Minä olen töissä ja teen työsopimuksen sen takia että voin olla varma saamistani rahoista. Omalla ajalla voin vääntää musiikkia tms. ja jos siitä saa vielä jotain pennosia niin pirun hyvä homma. Jos ei niin so what, huvin vuoksi sitä tehdään.

Tai sitten nykyisen vallalla olevan järjestelmän, jossa jakaminen on kielletty vastustaminen. Tekijänoikeus ei-vapaissa ohjelmistoissa ei nykyisellään anna mitään konkreettisia etuja kansalaisille. Se vain vie pois oikeuden kopiointiin. Ei kansalaistottelemattomuus ole mitenkään epärehellistä tai moraalitonta.

Harvoin törmää noin hyvin kirjoitettuun tekstiin. Spekulaatiota tuokin on, mutta kyllä hänellä hyvä pointti asiasta on. Hauska ja selkeä lukea, jos osaa arvostaa värikästä kirjoitusta englanniksi niin tuo kannattaa lukea ihan vain senkin takia.

Tämä on 110% offtopikkia mutta tätä pidän värikkäimpänä ja hauskimpana englannin kirjoituksena jota olen koskaan lukenut
http://www.zug.com/scrawl/analbob/
Laitan ilon kiertämään.

Jokaiselle luettavaksi. Tulee ymmärretyksi, mihin suuntaan ollaan - mitä valitettavammin - menossa.

omaisuusrikoskin on rikos.

eikös softan diilaajatkin ole diilereitä? ;)

Sitten kannattaa lukea hieman tarkemmin tai ensimmäistä kommenttia pidemmälle. Minä en saa sitä kuvaa.

The TRUTH about Udgnet (from someone who knows). PLEASE READ

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Hello everyone. As many now may know, the FBI and DoJ have executed search warrants on some of us, and questioned others (myself included). It's unfortunate they cannot get their facts straight before spouting off to the press. (Same goes for the press... they really should be checking their facts.)

To those who have no clue what I'm talking about, try Google News. (search for: underground network p2p)

If you read an article, and came here looking for answers or are curious as to what's going on, I'm about to fill you in. After all, I'm the "Answer Man". (Was odd to hear the FBI refer to me by that title as too.)

There have been many misconceptions in the handful of articles I've read. They all claim to be the same article by Curt Anderson of the Associated Press. Funny how I've read 30 different versions of the same article, written by the same person. It's difficult to tell how many facts were blatently wrong to begin with, but it's downright upsetting how many are currently wrong. I could never begin to explain all the misconstuded facts, as I haven't read them all. However, I would like to clear up a few "facts" I've read about a place I've been involved in for some time. That place: The Underground Network.

First off, I've yet to figure out the "100 Gigabyte minimum requirement" claim for joining the network. What is it to join the network anyway? What is the network? These are the questions so many have wrong. If you're talking about the forums... which is the only thing there IS to join in any sense, then there are no requirements. Well, no requirements past having access to a computer, the Internet, and an email account, plus being older then 13 (or lying that you are). It's the standard "requirements" of any other vB forum. There are thousands of them out there. Check Google.

So that must not be what they are talking about when they say "members are required to share 100gb of copyrighted material to join" (quoting a story posted to the Register.co.uk). Excuse me? If they are talking about the hubs, well, you don't "join the network" to login to a hub. You connect to one of the hubs with our name in it. That's really all there is to it. We are just a collection of people with similar interests (read the forums to learn some of them) who also help eachother out in the hubs. To join a hub (like all other 13,000+ Direct Connect hubs out there, besides ours), you need a preset "minshare" that the hub decides. That is, files you are willing to share with other users in that hub. We do NOT police these files beyond the stuff we KNOW is illegal (underage porn, beastality, etc). Beyond that we are very clear with one point: THE USER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR SHARE!

If you connect to one of the hubs with our name on it and are sharing files you shouldn't, then YOU made a boo-boo. Not us. The media and the FBI seem to have missed this point. I've seen write-ups about how much info "is stored on" or "passes through hubs". They claim "up to 60,000 movies and 18 million songs a day" (again, quoting an article). EXCUSE me? No... the hubs don't hold a SINGLE byte of digital information. They don't even transfer any of it from user to user in fact. Did anyone bother to do the research? They didn't call the protocol and application "Direct Connect" because it sounded pretty. Once you are in the hub as a USER (not a member - nothing to join), you DIRECTLY CONNECT to the other users in the hub. Not too complicated... yet the FBI "infiltrated and investigated for 3 months" and they still have the facts wrong. John Ashcroft has some explaining to do. It's a scary world we live in if our own government gathers and uses their facts this way.

Oh there is so much else. Yes, users are required to share to connect to the hub. It can be a FREE open source (non-copyrighted) Linux operating system downloaded from http://www.LinuxISO.org. It could be programs YOU wrote that you want to distribute. It could be a song YOU recorded to MP3 that you want the world to hear. That's up to you. That's the USER'S responsibility. We do not condone or encourage piracy of any form. Unfortunately this fact also escaped the powers that be. A 'hub' is simply a meeting place for people to come to and have fun, chat, and share what THE USER decides they want to ( and is responsible for). The hub operator DOES NOT in ANY way share or distrubute ANY material, copyrighted or otherwise.

Browse around the forums. You will see what we do. We chat with each other on current events. We help each other with hardware or software troubles. We joke around and have fun. We provide a shoulder to cry on if you had a bad day. We share knowledge and information, just like every other forum on the planet. We don't ask, suggest, or force you to share illegal files or spread copyright material ourselves. (In fact, frequently we will remind people that it's not welcome on our forums. Once again, browse around and see for yourself.) Those "facts" are simply fabrication of the press, or worse, the FBI/DoJ.

I'll repeat what I told the special agent this morning when he came knocking: You guys are on a wild goose chase. You're going after the wrong people in this scenario. Instead of the administrators and hub owners, you need to be worrying about the USERS that are sharing 100+ GBs of these files the FBI claimed they downloaded. The hub owner didn't push that file on you. YOU requested it, then DIRECTLY CONNECTED to the other user to download it. The hubs simply provide a meeting place for people with like interests. You can chat, get help, or share files. What you do is up to YOU.

The "organization" and "admins" of the network are also misunderstood. We are not some massive group plotting against anyone. It's just everyday people with some free time that have tried to help out others when they could. Look at my posts, for example, and you'll see what I mean. I was made an "administrator of the network" simply because I have computer knowledge and could help users/"members" when necessary. I like to help - it's what makes me tick. That isn't a crime. Each person does their own thing. Some help keep the forums running well. Some help keep the website up. Others help the hub owners with their computer problems. No one is a "ring leader". No one organizes any "warez" rings or checks the non-existant "minimum requirements of members". Misconstrued facts + false information = ignorance & innocent people having their hard earned personal property seized. Nothing more, nothing less. Don't be one of the ignorant ones - know the facts and realize the truth.

Hopefully this will clear up a few misconceptions and blatant lies about what the Underground Network is. I certainly hope the press will dig into the REAL facts, and actually tell the truth. I also hope that the FBI/DoJ will realize their mistake(s) and not cause any more undue harm to us.

Thank you for reading. Questions can be directed at my email: GuidoZ@Udgnet.com

Sataan gigatavuun mahtuu melkolainen määrä tuotteita joiden copyrighteja k.o jakaja rikkoo. Jos vaikkapa jokainen ladattavissa oleva ohjelma/peli/elokuva ladataan kymmenenkin kertaa, on helposti laskettavissa ettei sakkosumma jää kovin pieneksi.

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